JESUS CHRIST

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“Thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God Himself that formed the earth and made it: ... I am the Lord; and there is none else” (Isaiah 40:25, 26; 45:18).

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I, even I, am the Lord, And besides Me there is no savior. I have declared and saved, I have proclaimed, And there was no foreign god among you; Therefore you are My witnesses,” Says the Lord, “that I am God.
[url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?version=NKJV&search=Isaiah 43:11-12]Isaiah 43:11-12[/url] NKJV

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”They answered and said to Him, “Abraham is our father.” Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham’s children, you would do the works of Abraham. But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this.“
‭‭John‬ ‭8‬:‭39‬-‭40‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/114/jhn.8.39-40.NKJV

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Verse to prove that Jesus is not God ?

Jesus pray to his God

Luke 6:12

12 One of those days Jesus went out to a mountainside to pray, and spent the night praying to God.

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Jesus is a man

1 Timothy 2:5-6

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus
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Jesus call His God

Mark 15:34

34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?” which is translated, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”

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Jesus Father is his God and our God

John 20:17

17 Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.’”

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Jesus pray to God

Luke 6:12

12 One of those days Jesus went out to a mountainside to pray, and spent the night praying to God.

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God raised Jesus to life...

so Jesus has God ... not Jesus is God

Acts 2:32

32 God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it.33 Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear.

The Son Exalted Above Angels
5 For to which of the angels did He ever say:

“You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You”?[c]

And again:

“I will be to Him a Father,
And He shall be to Me a Son”?[d]

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Genesis 1:27
So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

God speak
16 When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him. 17 And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”

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Jesus Preaches in Galilee

42 Now when it was day, He departed and went into a deserted place. And the crowd sought Him and came to Him, and tried to keep Him from leaving them; 43 but He said to them, “I must preach the kingdom of God to the other cities also, because for this purpose I have been sent.” 44 And He was preaching in the synagogues of Galilee.

Prophesy of Isaiah

[size=36]Isaiah 9New King James Version (NKJV) (Isaiah prophesy)[/size]

6 For unto us a Child is born,
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

GOD LEAVE JESUS

[size=36]Matthew 27:46New King James Version (NKJV)[/size]
46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying,“Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”[a]

Jesus and God together before
John 17:5
5 And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.

The Father is the God

[size=39]Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any trouble, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.[/size]
[url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?version=NKJV&search=2 Corinthians 1:3-4]2 Corinthians 1:3-4[/url] NKJV

God the father, son Jesus

For if, while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!
Romans 5:10 NIV

Leviticus 24:17
‘Whoever kills any man shall surely be put to death.

Rev. 3:12 Jesus has God
¹²[size=32]He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name.[/size]

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Jesus was an Angel before and exalted above angels. And God made him his son.
Hebrews 1:5
The Son Exalted Above Angels
For to which of the angels did He ever say: “You are My Son, Today I have begotten You”? And again: “I will be to Him a Father, And He shall be to Me a Son”?

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Jesus exist before the world was made

John:17-24

“Father, you have given these people to me. I want them to be with me where I am. Then they will see how great I am. You made me great because you loved me. You loved me even before the world began.”
‭‭John‬ ‭17‬:‭24‬ ‭EASY‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/2079/jhn.17.24.EASY

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God remain in Jesus

Luke 3:21New King James Version (NKJV)
John Baptizes Jesus

21 When all the people were baptized, it came to pass that Jesus also was baptized; and while He prayed, the heaven was opened. 22 And the Holy Spirit descended in bodily form like a dove upon Him, and a voice came from heaven which said, “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.”

John 1:32

32 And John bore witness, saying, “I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and He remained upon Him. 33 I did not know Him, but He who sent me to baptize with water said to me, ‘Upon whom you see the Spirit descending, and remaining on Him, this is He who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.’ 34 And I have seen and testified that this is the Son of God.”

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Holy Spirit dwell in us

2 Timothy 1 New King James Version (NKJV)
13 Hold fast the pattern of sound words which you have heard from me, in faith and love which are in Christ Jesus. 14 That good thing which was committed to you, keep by the Holy Spirit who dwells in us.

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The Father DWELL in Jesus that is why they're one
John 14:10
Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority, but the Father who dwells in Me does the works.

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Pray to "GOD" the Father not to Jesus

Jesus Teaches About Prayer

5 “When you pray, don’t be like the hypocrites. They love to stand in the synagogues and on the street corners and pray loudly. They want people to see them. The truth is, that’s all the reward they will get. 6 But when you pray, you should go into your room and close the door. Then pray to your Father. He is there in that private place. He can see what is done in private, and he will reward you.
7 “And when you pray, don’t be like the people who don’t know God. They say the same things again and again. They think that if they say it enough, their god will hear them. 8 Don’t be like them. Your Father knows what you need before you ask him. 9 So this is how you should pray:
‘Our Father in heaven,
    we pray that your name will always be kept holy.
10 We pray that your kingdom will come—
    that what you want will be done here on earth, the same as in heaven.
11 Give us the food we need for today.
12 Forgive our sins,
    just as we have forgiven those who did wrong to us.
13 Don’t let us be tempted,
    but save us from the Evil One.’
14 Yes, if you forgive others for the wrongs they do to you, then your Father in heaven will also forgive your wrongs. 15 But if you don’t forgive others, then your Father in heaven will not forgive the wrongs you do.

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Acts 2:32

32 God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it.33 Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear. 34 For David did not ascend to heaven, and yet he said,

Acts 2:36
36 “Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”

Philippians 2:5-7New King James Version (NKJV)

The Humbled and Exalted Christ

5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, andcoming in the likeness of men.

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Mark 16New International Version (NIV)
19 After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heavenand he sat at the right hand of God.

Luke 6:12

12 One of those days Jesus went out to a mountainside to pray, and spent the night praying to God.

God and Jesus are different..

Revelation 5New King James Version (NKJV)

The Lamb Takes the Scroll
5 And I saw in the right hand of Him who sat on the throne a scroll written inside and on the back, sealed with seven seals. 2 Then I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, “Who is worthy to open the scroll and to loose its seals?” 3 And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll, or to look at it.

4 So I wept much, because no one was found worthy to open and read[a] the scroll, or to look at it. 5 But one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep. Behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the scroll and to loose its seven seals.”

6 And I looked, and behold,[c] in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as though it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth. 7 Then He came and took the scroll out of the right hand of Him who sat on the throne.

Rev. 21
22 I did not see a temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.

John 20:17
17 Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.’”

John 14:9-10
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

John 17Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)

Jesus Prays for Himself and His Followers

17 After Jesus said these things, he looked toward heaven and prayed, “Father, the time has come. Give glory to your Son so that the Son can give glory to you. 2 You gave the Son power over all people so that he could give eternal life to all those you have given to him. 3 And this is eternal life: that people can know you, the only true God, and that they can know Jesus Christ, the one you sent. 4 I finished the work you gave me to do. I brought you glory on earth. 5 And now, Father, give me glory with you. Give me the glory I had with you before the world was made.

GOD RAISED JESUS FROM THE DEAD

Acts 4:10
10 let it be known to all of you, and to all the people of Israel, that this man is standing before you in good health by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth,[d] whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead.

GOD LEAVE IN JESUS BODY

Matthew 27:45-47
46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”

Jesus call His God

Mark 15:34
34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?” which is translated, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”

Definition of forsake for Students

forsook \-ˈsu̇k\; forsaken \-ˈsā-kən\; forsaking

: to give up or leave entirely

contradict verse
Hebrews 1:8-9

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John 3:16

16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

God dwell in Jesus:

1 John 4King James Version (KJV)
14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

John 14
9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves.

1 Timothy 2:5-6
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus

"But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him..." (1 Corinthians 8:6, KJV).

Math 28:18
Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

Revelation 5King James Version (KJV)
5 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.
2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?
3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;
12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.
13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

in the name of

18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore[c] and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.

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top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="56"></a><strong><span style="color:#00F008"><strong>Admin</strong></span></strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile">Admin<br /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#fae208;">Posts</span> : </span> 67<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#fae208;">Join date</span> : </span> 2009-06-13<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="JESUS CHRIST Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row1" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minipost.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" />Subject: Re: JESUS CHRIST <img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minitime.gif" alt="JESUS CHRIST I_icon_minitime" border="0" />Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:43 am</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div><span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: normal"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/alexander.wesker.33?fref=ufi" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>Alexander Wesker</strong></a> </span><br /><span style="font-size: 16px; line-height: normal">Yes there is a name given that humanity is saved. But that name is not "Jesus".<br /><br />The True Names are:<br /><br />Yâ-hwéh (pronounced: ya-HWE)<br /><br />Yâhuwshúa` (pronounced: yAhoo-SHOO-a)<br /><br />You can listen here how the Names are pronounced:<br /><a href="https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yahuwshua.org%2Fen%2FSaving%20Testimony.mp3&h=vAQEM6tUb" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.yahuwshua.org/en/Saving%20Testimony.mp3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.yahuwshua.org/en/Saving%20Testimony.mp3</a><br /><br />"Jehovah" is a FALSE name. Its a corruption of the name Yâ-hwéh.<br /><a href="https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yahuwshua.org%2Fen%2Fthenamepage.htm%23jehovah&h=bAQHIa8xV" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.yahuwshua.org/en/thenamepage.htm#jehovah" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.yahuwshua.org/en/thenamepage.htm#jehovah</a><br /><br />"Jesus" is a FALSE name. Its a corruption of the name Yâhuwshúa`.<br /><a href="https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yahuwshua.org%2Fen%2Fjesus666.htm&h=qAQEWz9hK" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.yahuwshua.org/en/jesus666.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.yahuwshua.org/en/jesus666.htm</a><br /><br />"God" is a FALSE title. It was not originally written in the scriptures as a title of Yâ-hwéh Yâhuwshúa`. In fact "God" is the name of a pagan idol. It was added to the scriptures way later to censor Yâ-hwéh Yâhuwshúa`. "God" means "Fortune-distributor". The translation of "Fortune distributor" ("God") into Greek is Daemon (Demon). "God" = Demon.<br /><a href="https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yahuwshua.org%2Fen%2Fthenamepage.htm%23god&h=xAQHy3tAR" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.yahuwshua.org/en/thenamepage.htm#god" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.yahuwshua.org/en/thenamepage.htm#god</a><br /><br />"Lord" is a FALSE title. And like "God", was not originally written in the scriptures as a title of Yâ-hwéh Yâhuwshúa`. And like "God" it was added way later to the scriptures to censor Yâ-hwéh Yâhuwshúa`. "Lord" is the English translation of Bá`al. And Bá`al is a title of Sâţâ´n. "Lord" = Sâţâ´n.<br /><a href="https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yahuwshua.org%2Fen%2Fthenamepage.htm%23baal&h=yAQEoGcdq" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.yahuwshua.org/en/thenamepage.htm#baal" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.yahuwshua.org/en/thenamepage.htm#baal</a><br /><br />"Allah" is also a FALSE title. look at this scripture, found in Yshá`Yâhuw ("Isaiah") 14:12-15 about Hëylë´l, a proper noun, which the KJV found fit to "translate" to "Lucifer":<br /><br />"How you have fallen from the heavens, Hëylë´l (Day-star [luminary orb]), son of the dawn! You were cast down to the earth, you who prostrated the heathen masses! And you, who said in your heart, <br /><br />“The heavens I shall ascend, from over the stars of the Power shall I raise my throne, and I shall sit on the mount of meeting on the recesses of the north! I shall ascend over the heights of the thundercloud; I shall make myself resemble the Most High.”<br /><br />But you shall be brought down to Sh’ówl, to the recesses of the pit!"<br /><br />The term found in `Ivríyth ("Hebrew") as “I shall ascend” is אֶעֱלֶ֖ה ’e`eléh and the way one says “he ascended” in `Ivríyth is עָלָ֖ה `Âlâ´h (Strong's #5927). Of course, it is a lie, Hëylë´l did not succeed at his vain proposition. But this is but one possible spelling of this name. There is another, which in fact is found used in scriptures in several places.<br />Dâ´niyyË´’l 11:38 also mentions the "Curse of the Fortresses", "a mighty one that his fathers did not recognize" that the Impostor "Antichrist" will honor with offerings, work for, acknowledge, magnify and honor during the Great Persecution. What is the Hebrew word there for "Curse"? Strong's #423: ’Âlâ´h! Let us not think these false 'elohíym names are meaningless and benign. <br /><br />0423. hla Æalah aw-law'; from 0422; an imprecation:— curse, cursing, execration, oath, swearing. <br /><br />"Allah" = Sâţâ´n<br /><a href="https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yahuwshua.org%2Fen%2Fthenamepage.htm%23allah&h=MAQEkpqvh" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.yahuwshua.org/en/thenamepage.htm#allah" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.yahuwshua.org/en/thenamepage.htm#allah</a><br /><br />'Elohiym is a TRUE title of Yâ-hwéh Yâhuwshúa`, and it means "mighty Ones". It does not mean "God" or "Gods"<br /><br />'Athonâ´y is also a TRUE title of Yâ-hwéh Yâhuwshúa`, and it means "my Sovereign". It does not mean "Lord". The Greek word Kurios also means "Sovereign". 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Yâ-hwéh is One Being, Who has separated Himself temporarily in two parts, His Eternal Force/Power (the Father) and His Mighty Person/Personhood (Yâhuwshúa`/the Son/the Word). This is demonstrated throughout the scriptures. The purpose of this separation is so He may visit His Creation without instantaneously giving eternal life to everyone who sees Him in His full Power, and so the old heavens and old earth might not yet run away from His Face and be purified by His Force (that will happen when He reunites).<br /><br />'Elohíym means "mighty Ones", it is plural. Never mind the "Yehuwdiy" (Jewish) traditional explanation which lies saying that it is plural out of respect, and is an idiom. And Yâ-hwéh is also not a trinity. No. The reason it is plural is because Yâ-hwéh is, as stated above, both His eternal Force/Power and His mighty Person/Personhood, thus being plural, though He is One.<br /><br />So the name Yâ-hwéh applies to both of His parts called "the Father" and "the Son", because Yâ-hwéh is both His eternal Force/Power AND His mighty Person/Personhood (Romans 1:20). The "Father" is the Greatness that is from the Son (Yâhuwchânân 14:26). The "Father" is the Son's own Power (He called Him 'Ëlíy, "My Power" and never once called Him the plural form 'Elohíym ('Eloháy)). Understand that no man has seen "the Father", but multiple people have seen Yâ-hwéh! Who did they see? "The Son". Moshéh asked Yâ-hwéh "show me your Kâvówth (Honor, Worth)", referring to "the Father". But he was only allowed to see the afterglow after He transitioned It in front of him. He declared how He would justify creation, and only allowed him to see the condemnation by the Law. Do not get too hung up on the terms "Father" and "Son" because words are imperfect images of what is spiritual reality, and will make you stumble. The biological allegory is limited in its application (The Glad Tidings of Philippos 10). For example, in Yâ-hwéh, the "Father" is from the "Son", and they are One Being, and the "Son" was not created, but look! If I say the same thing in other terms, you could understand it better: the Honor of Yâ-hwéh is from the Person of Yâ-hwéh, and Yâ-hwéh's Person was not created, Yâ-hwéh is the Beginning.<br /><br />He will be reunified with His Power/Force again. It is clear and abundantly stated in scripture in several references that He is the Beginning and the End, that just as in the Beginning He was within His Power/Force and He came out of It, He will reunify with It physically and be physically One again at the End, when there is no more sin, no more need for Him to be apart from His Power so as to not blow away the universe by revealing His Face. This will be at the end of the 1000 year reign of Yâhuwshúa`. It will be then that the Person/Personhood of Yâ-hwéh (Yâhuwshúa`/the Son) will reunify with the Power/Force of Yâ-hwéh (the Father) physically and be physically One again.<br /><br />2. Yâhuwshúa` is Yâ-hwéh in Person. He was Who created the world, He is the Chief of Creation. He was not created. There is no other 'Elohíym to do such a thing as to create Yâ-hwéh. All scriptures which have been used to challenge this fact are mistranslated (Chief as "Beginning"), and the fact that He became the Firstborn of Creation reflects His replacement of 'Âthâ´m (Adam) in that position, much like 'Ephráyim (Ephraim) replaced that of R'uwvë´n (Reuben), Ya`aqóv (Jacob) that of `Ësâ´w (Esau), etc.<br /><br />3. The spirit of the Pure One is a ruwach (a breath/wind), not a person. For those who believe in the trinity, for your information, 1 Yâhuwchânân ("1 John") 5:7-8 was altered in establishment versions and, in reality, does not support trinity. This is what 1 Yâhuwchânân ("1 John") 5:6-8 really says:<br /><br />6. This is He who came by means of water and blood : Yâhuwshúa`, the Anointed One. Not by water only, rather by water and blood [Yâhuwchânâ´n 19: 34]. <br />7. Also it is the breath (rúwach) which bears witness because it is the spirit of the Truth.<br />8. Because there are three that testify: the spirit, and the water, and the blood, and the three are for the One.<br /><br />And The Glad Tidings of Tâ'ówm says this in verse 30:<br /><br />Yâhuwshúa` said, "Where there are three mighty ones, they are qéçem (diviners/spiritists). Where there are two [Father and Son] or One, I am with him."</span><br /><br /><br /><span style="font-size: 16px; line-height: normal"><a href="http://www.yahuwshua.org/en/thenamepage.htm#jehovah" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.yahuwshua.org/en/thenamepage.htm#jehovah</a><br /></span><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><span style="font-size: 16px; line-height: normal">There is more information on <a href="https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yahuwshua.org%2F&h=8AQHb6xcw" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.yahuwshua.org.</a> You can also download for free the PSR (Pure Scriptures for the Remnant) translation at <a href="https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yahuwshua.org%2F&h=5AQE2iULh" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.yahuwshua.org.</a> The PSR is a Pure and Accurate translation of the scriptures and shows what the scriptures are really saying. Here are some of the PSR translation of the scriptures:<br /><br />Romans 10:8-13<br />Our Word of Rectification and Salvation<br />8. Instead what does it say?<br />“…the Word is to be very near to you, in your mouth and in your heart for you to do it.” [Deuteronomy 30: 14]<br />that is, the Word of the belief which we proclaim:<br />9. Because if you profess with your mouth “Yâhuwshúa` is Yâ-hwéh”, and believe in your heart that the Power raised Him from among the dead, you shall be delivered.<br />10. For with the heart is believing for justification; but with the mouth, testimony is professed for deliverance.<br />11. For the scripture says,<br />“… [and you will acknowledge that since I am Yâ-hwéh,] those waiting in hope for Me shall not be disappointed.” [Yshá`Yâhuw 49: 23]<br /><br />Yâ-hwéh has the same name for everyone to call: Yâ-hwéh Yâhuwshúa` (Deeds of the Delegates 2: 21, 36-38)<br />12. ¶ For about this, there is not a difference between a Yâhuwthíy or a Greek, for the same Yâ´hu, the Sovereign of all of them, is Shúa` (riches, deliverance) for all of those who invoke Him, [Songs 118: 14]<br />13. Since: <br />“[And it shall happen,] everyone who shall have called on the name of Yâ-hwéh, he shall be delivered! [because the escaped remnant shall be on the Mountain of Tsiyyówn and in Yruwshâláim,” just as Yâ-hwéh said, “even they which have had glad tidings preached to them whom Yâ-hwéh is calling.]” [Yâhuw’Ë´l 2: 32]<br /><br />Yâhuwchânâ´n ("John") 14:28<br />28. Ye heard that I said to you that I am going away, yet I am coming towards you. If ye affectionately love Me, ye will rejoice that I said:<br />“I am going to My Father”<br />for My Father is the Greatness which is from Me . [ZkharYâ´hu 6: 13 , Yâhuwchânâ´n’s Glad Tidings 17: 3, To the `Ivríym 9: 11]<br /><br />Yâhuwchânâ´n ("John") 1:1-3<br />Nature of Yâ-hwéh: the Word and His Power (’Ël)<br />1. ¶ Within the First (Yâ-hwéh) was the Word, and the Word was before the Power (’Ël), and Yâ-hwéh was the Word.<br />2. This One (the Word) was within the First before the Power (’Ël).<br />3. All things through Him were caused to exist, and separately of Him, not even one thing that has come into existence did come into existence.<br /><br />Romans 10:9-11<br />9. Because if you profess with your mouth “Yâhuwshúa` is Yâ-hwéh”, and believe in your heart that the Power raised Him from among the dead, you shall be delivered.<br />10. For with the heart is believing for justification; but with the mouth, testimony is professed for deliverance .<br />11. For the scripture says,<br />“… [and you will acknowledge that since I am Yâ-hwéh,] those waiting in hope for Me shall not be disappointed.” [Yshá`Yâhuw 49: 23]<br /><br />`Ivríym ("Hebrews") 1:7-14<br />Yâhuwshúa` is ’Elohíym (the mighty Ones)<br />7. But, indeed towards the envoys, He says:<br />“the One making of winds His envoys, and of flaming fire His menial servants;” [Songs 104: 4]<br />8. Yet towards the Son:<br /><br />“Your throne, O ’Elohíym1 (mighty Ones), is for the age and perpetuity! The scepter of Your Kingdom is a scepter of uprightness.<br />9. You did love righteousness and did hate wickedness (lawlessness); due to this Your Power (’Ël) has anointed You ’Elohíym (mighty Ones), with the oil of exultation, over Your companions.” [Songs 45: 6-7]<br /><br />Yâhuwshúa` the Creator, the First <br />10. And to the Son:<br /><br />“…though You are from before You, Yâ-hwéh, founded the earth and the heavens, the works of Your hands,<br />11. they are who will perish, but You Who will remain standing, and all of them, like a garment they will wear out;<br />12. like clothing You will exchange them, and they shall be transformed. But You are the Same, and Your years, they are not consumed.” [Songs 102: 25-27]<br /><br />13. But to which of the envoys did He ever say:<br />“Sit at My right hand until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet!” [Songs 110: 1]?<br />14. Look! Aren’t they all ministering spirits, being sent forth unto the service of attending, for the sake of those being about to inherit deliverance?<br /><br />Luwqá’ ("Luke") 23:39-43<br />39. Yet one of the criminals who had been hanged, reviled Him, saying:<br />“If You are the Anointed One, save Yourself and save us also!”<br />40. But the other one, responding, rebuked him, saying to him:<br />“Might you not even fear the mighty Ones, because you are within the same condemnation?<br />41. But we, indeed fairly so, for we receive in full a due recompense of what we committed; but this One has not committed even one thing out of place!”<br />42. And he said to Yâhuwshúa`:<br />“Remember me, Yâ-hwéh, when You might come into Your Kingdom.”<br />43. And Yâhuwshúa` said to him:<br />“’Âmë´n (certainly) I say to you, that today you shall be with Me within Pardë´ç (the Garden of `Ë´then )” [YchezqË´’l 31: 16-18 , Nikódemos 10: 2, 26: 1]<br /><br />Philippoçíym ("Philippians") 2:11<br />11. And every tongue shall openly acknowledge:<br />“Yâhuwshúa` the Anointed is Yâ-hwéh !”<br />for the honor of His Father the Power.<br /><br />Deeds of the Delegates ("Acts") 2:38-39<br />38. And Shim`ówn Këph said to them:<br /><br />“Each of you reconsider, and become immersed within the name of Yâ-hwéh Yâhuwshúa` for release from sins, and ye will receive the gift of the spirit of the Pure One.<br />39. 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but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.’”<br /><br />_______________________<br /><br />Jesus pray to God<br /><br />Luke 6:12<br /><br />12 One of those days Jesus went out to a mountainside to pray, and spent the night praying to God.<br /><br />____________________<br /><br />God raised Jesus to life... <br />so Jesus has God ... not Jesus is God<br /><br />Acts 2:32<br /><br />32 God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it.33 Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear.</div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--64" style=""><td class="row1 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_up_arrow.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_down_arrow.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row1 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> <a href="https://religion.forumotion.com" title="Visit poster's website" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/empty.gif" alt="https://religion.forumotion.com" /></a> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--65" id="p65" style=""><td class="row2" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="65" style="position: relative; 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but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.’”<br /><br />_______________________<br /><br />Jesus pray to God<br /><br />Luke 6:12<br /><br />12 One of those days Jesus went out to a mountainside to pray, and spent the night praying to God.<br /><br />____________________<br /><br />God raised Jesus to life... <br />so Jesus has God ... not Jesus is God<br /><br />Acts 2:32<br /><br />32 God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it.33 Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear.</div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--65" style=""><td class="row2 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_up_arrow.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_down_arrow.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row2 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> <a href="https://religion.forumotion.com" title="Visit poster's website" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/empty.gif" alt="https://religion.forumotion.com" /></a> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--67" id="p67" style=""><td class="row1" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="67" style="position: relative; 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